Gutter Miter Leaks : Why Do Gutter Corners Leak?

gutter leaking at corner

Miter Leaks is the term used to describe gutters leaking or dripping at the corner sections. Basically what is happening is the water has eaten through the sealant to find a path to escape the gutter system. Any drops you are seeing are from water that was inside the gutter and has now escaped.

The hard part about identifying miter leaks, is that you can only see the leaks when it is raining. (or soon after if you have clogs or pitch issues) Therefore it is up to the homeowner to spot these leaks when it rains.

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WHAT IS A GUTTER MITER?

Outside Box Miter

 

This “Outside Box” style miter connects two gutter sections on an outside corner.

Miters are basically a corner section that two straight gutters meet at to form a corner. With a miter properly installed and sealed the water is now able to travel around corners from gutter to gutter.

Once the two gutter sections are slid into the miter all the seams are then caulked so the water can’t leak or drip through. Unfortunately the sealants do not last as long as the aluminum gutters, therefore miter leaks are a common thing to happen at least once during your gutter system’s life.

TYPES OF GUTTER MITERS

There are two main types of miters, Inside Miter and Outside Miter, and they are named in regards to which way the corner faces from the home. An Outside Miter points outwards, or away from the home. While an Inside Miter points inwards towards the home. That is the easiest way to describe it.

inside miter

 

Inside Miter

Outside Miter

 

Outside Miter

Box Style Gutter Miter

So far all of the photos we’ve shown in this article were a style of miter called box style miter. However there is another style of miter called a strip miter that does the exact same thing. The only difference is the strip is just a small strip of material that covers the seams whereas the box style extends past the seams and covers more surface area. Both are equally as effective if the gutters are cut correctly and in good condition.

Strip style are more common for new gutter installations and box style are more common for miter replacements. For new gutter installation, only a thin strip is needed to cover the essential seam. But with older miters it is usually easier to put a box style miter over all of the old seams and caulk.

inside strip miter

 

Inside Strip Miter

outside strip miter

 

Outside Strip Miter

inside and outside strip miter

 

Inside and Outside Strip Miters


SIGNS OF GUTTER MITER LEAKS

The best way to know if your gutters or miters are leaking is to observe your gutters during rain or soon after rain. The best way to know if your gutters or miters are leaking is to observe your gutters during rain or soon after rain. Leaking miters are very easy to spot as miters are only located on corners.

Gutter Leaking at Seam or Corner

To know if any of your miters are leaking, simply take a lap (during rain) and look up to each corner section. If there is water pouring or leaking from the miter, (especially from the bottom), then the seal has likely worn out and the miter needs to be resealed.

leaky miter

 

This miter has been leaking for a long time in order for there to be green (mold/mildew) accumulation in the seams. This outside box miter will need to be replaced. The gutter sections will need to be scraped and cleaned thoroughly before applying any new seals.

Keep in mind that if you have a clogged downspout near the miter, that the clog could cause the miter to appear as if it’s leaking. This is misleading when this happens. It is because the water can’t flush down the spout so it escapes from wherever it can. Basically when miters appear to be leaking very close to the downspout, it is actually just a clogged downspout and no sealing is needed. The photo below is a classic example of a miter that appears to be leaking, but it was actually a clogged downspout. You can notice the downspout is about two feet from the miter.

gutter leaking at corner

 

Water leaking from this miter was caused by a clogged downspout.

Ground Erosion Below Miter

Besides seeing the miter leaking during or soon after rain, the other main way of identifying a leak is you will see ground eroding under the miter. If a leaking miter is above mulch it will almost always wash it out at the corner. You may even see the water pooling up under the section. Basement leaks could be caused from the water pooling up too close to the home. The photo below is the corner below the leaky miter in the photo above.

water pooling from gutter leak

 

You can see the water from the leaky miter above has worn out the ground below the miter section.

Icicles forming

Check out this short video clip below that shows how water slowly drips from a miter section. The cool thing is there is an icicle that has formed at the miter seam. This is a clear indication that the miter is leaking. You can see in the video that the other miter does not look like this. Keep in mind this video was recorded when snow was melting from the roof which is a perfect time to diagnose problems with the gutter system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWSxnmK8qZk

CAUSES OF MITER LEAKS

The two most common causes of Miter Leaks are gutter pitch issues and clogged gutters. Most problems with miter leaks can be traced back to one of these issues.

Gutter Pitch Issues

The most common cause of all miter leaks or problems is due to the gutter pitch not being correct. All gutters are pitched or sloped so that the water drains freely towards the downspout. When gutter pitch is off then the water can’t drain properly. Once this happens the only way for the water to escape is finding places to leak through or to evaporate.

In the two photos below you see a perfect example of a miter that is sagging at the corner. When the corner is the low spot the water has no where to go. Then the next photo shows the inside of that same miter. You can see the water and debris that are trapped in this section. Since water can’t flow up hill this will be stuck here until it evaporates or leaks.

sagging miter

 

A sagging miter is a clear indication of the pitch being off in that corner. Both gutter sections will need to be re-configured properly to achieve the correct pitch.

water collects in miter

 

Water and debris collects in the sagging miter.

One thing to remember is that the more corners (miters) you have in a run of gutters, the harder it is to configure the pitch properly. For example, a straight gutter with no miters is going to be a lot easier to pitch. Whereas a gutter that goes around multiple corners will take a little more skill to configure so all sections drain properly.

multiple miter sections

 

Some sections require multiple miters and expert pitching to have all the gutter flow in the correct direction. If one is pitched wrongly it throws off everything.

Water Must Go Around Corners

miter corners

The most important thing to remember with miters is that the water must get around the corners. When the pitch is off, the water is not making it around the corner. In the short video clip below you can see a gutter that has over about 2 inches of standing water with no where to go. Right around the corner from the miter is the downspout, but the water can not make it up and over this miter section.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z0R_m36l_c0

What needs to happen is both gutter sections and the miter need to be re-pitched or re-adjusted. Here are some photos of the same gutter and miter from the video. You can notice how the gutter is bone dry by the downspout but wet up to the miter. This is a tell tale sign that the water is not flowing where it needs to.

miter pitch

 

You can see the water is not making it around the corner because the gutter is bone dry in between the corner and the downspout.

gutter filled with water from bad pitch

 

You can see the same gutter in this photo. Almost the entire gutter is filled with water and muck because it is not able to drain until the pitch is corrected.

Clogged Downspouts

As mentioned above, a clogged downspout that is located near a miter will also cause the miter to appear to leak. When downspouts are completely clogged the water is not able to drain properly. If the gutters are tight and sturdy then they will fill up with water completely. Much like a bath tub the gutters will over flow once they fill up. But also the water is trying to escape through every seam it can find. The seams of the miters are the only seams in a seamless gutter system, so basically it is the only route for water to escape besides over the top.

clogged downspout

 

Debris decomposes then compacts inside of the downspouts when clogs form. Once this happens no water is able to drain through the downspout.

The good news about clogged downspouts is that they are easy to identify and rule out. The tell tale sign that downspouts are clogged is when little to no water comes out of the downspout during rain. CLICK HERE for more information about Clogged Downspouts.

SIGNS OF MITER DAMAGE

Miters can leak because they are damaged as well. Here are some photos that show common examples of miter damage.

loose miter

 

Loose Miter

bent miter

 

Bent Miter

miter corrosion

 

Miter Corrosion

Loose Miter

When any part of the miter comes loose or unattached from the gutters. Seeing loose screws hanging from the miter would be a tell tale sign of this. The miter in the photo is able to be tightened and re-sealed.

Bent Miter

If any section of the gutter system is allowed to bend at too extreme an angle it will bend or kink. Once this happens there is no turning back. in the middle photo below you can see the bent has a small tear in it. If any section of your gutter system tears like this , especially miters, that piece needs to be replaced.

Miter Corrosion

Corrosion on the miter is usually black, green, or rust colored. In the right photo below you can see what looks like rust or corrosion on the miter seams. There are a couple factors that cause this to happen. The seals being old is the most common. Once the seals give way you’ll see more and more stain on the seams. Heavy debris accumulation in the miters is another direct cause of this. If debris is allowed to sit in the corner and decompose then it will gunk up this corner and the seals quickly. And the third option here is actual rust forming on the sections. The main cause of rust in gutters is excessive pollen and extreme temperature fluctuations. CLICK HERE for more information about gutter rust.

miter corrosion

 

Corrosion on the miter seams. Likely from aged seals.


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